February 5, 2023

Bob Woodward just called out Chief of Staff Kelly and Defense Secretary Mattis for lying about their interviews with him

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Bob Woodward’s book about Donald Trump comes out tomorrow, and it’s already caused a massive stir in the corridors of the White House. Fear: Trump in the White House promises to be a comprehensive, insider account of the worst administration in American history.


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Advance copies provided to publications like The Washington Post provide a glimpse into a presidency that’s gone completely off the rails headed by an executive grossly unfit for office. Trump’s aides have no respect for him or his authority and regularly undermine and mock him behind his back.

According to Woodward, Defense Secretary James Mattis disparaged Trump by saying he was like a “fifth or sixth-grader.” Chief of Staff John Kelly reportedly called the president an “idiot.” Mattis and Kelly both went on to deny the comments.

Today, Woodward called both men out for being dishonest. On The Today Show he explained that they’re lying in order to avoid Trump’s ire, a fair assessment given the president’s infamous temper and pathological inability to process anything even vaguely resembling criticism.

“They are not telling the truth. These people, these are political statements to protect their jobs, totally understandable,” Woodward said.

The interview covered other elements in the book, and the veteran journalist made it abundantly clear that he has very little faith in the Trump administration. He explained that he’s never before seen an American president so detached from reality, a terrifying prospect given the immense power at Trump’s fingertips. Woodward makes it clear: anyone who still has supports the president is deeply deluded.

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Natalie Dickinson

Natalie is a staff writer for the Washington Press. She graduated from Oberlin College in 2010 and has been freelance blogging and writing for progressive outlets ever since.

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