Despite an admonition from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigators not to discuss what happened when he was interviewed on Wednesday, the Republican consultant, and former Trump campaign aide Michael Caputo has been making the media rounds at Fox, CNN and elsewhere telling his story.
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Caputo says what he realized is that Muller and his team “know more about the campaign than any one person does who worked there.”
The questions he was asked were to confirm facts and fine context and possible new leads, said Caputo: “The Mueller investigation really wasn’t trying to find something. Every question they asked, they already have the answers to.”
My colleague @mkraju confirms former Trump campaign aide MICHAEL CAPUTO was interviewed by Mueller's team today. He said the questions were "difficult but fair." Caputo did comms for the Trump campaign, left in June 2016, has many past ties to Russia, and denies any wrongdoing.
— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) May 2, 2018
They know more about the campaign than people who worked on it because they have reached not only inside the operations but also outside and around it.
“They’ve got further documentation from people who worked outside the campaign,” said Caputo, “their emails, their texts. They have the entire campaign’s texts.”
Caputo told CNN that Mueller’s team is “focused on Russia collusion” by Trump and those around him during the campaign and after he took office.
Caputo has repeatedly denied his own guilt, although he has long-standing connections to Russia, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort (now under indictment) and Trump’s former campaign advisor Roger Stone, who has been linked to the illegal WikiLeaks disclosures during the 2016 campaign.
“It doesn’t sound like” the investigators have proof of Trump campaign collusions with Russia, at least not yet. Caputo told CNN.
Caputo was interviewed by the House Intelligence Committee last year and recently by the Senate Intelligence Committee, both during their Trump-Russia probe, but says their approach is scattershot while Mueller’s team is zeroing in on the key issues and evidence.
“The Senate and the House are net fishing,” Caputo said. “The special counsel is spearfishing. They know what they are aiming at and are deadly accurate.”
Caputo calls Mueller’s investigation a fixation on the “Russia collusion delusion,” and complains he has had to sell his house near Buffalo, New York and uproot his family to pay more than $125,000 in legal costs to date, so clearly, he has an attitude about the investigations.
Caputo says that the Mueller investigators told him he is not “a person of interest” at this time and is being questioned as a witness.
However, Caputo claims, “I think they were looking for an opportunity to make me a subject of this thing.”
Michael Caputo says Mueller team knows more about Trump campaign than anyone who worked there https://t.co/YuG0MbBXSb
— Fox News (@FoxNews) May 4, 2018
Even as he talked to reporters, Caputo freely said Mueller’s people told him not to talk about what had been discussed.
“It was very clear that they didn’t want me to talk about this stuff,” he said, adding: “I think everybody has been cautioned by the Mueller team that going out there and talking about it chapter and verse is, let’s say, highly discouraged.”
It is easy to see why Mueller’s team and Congressional investigators wanted to question Muller because he seems to provide an obvious link between Manafort, Stone, Russia and the Trump campaign, but if you believe his account, he is innocent and not a target of the investigators – at least not yet.
What is also clear is that Mueller and his team have been through, professional and dogged in their determination to get to the bottom of what happened during and after the campaign, and this investigation, no matter what loudmouth Rudy Giuliani says, is far from over.