The bizarre saga of Sam Nunberg took another twist this morning after he abruptly reversed his decision to not cooperate with a federal subpoena to appear before Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury on Friday, with the former Trump campaign aide now saying “I’m going to end up cooperating with them.”
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However, Nunberg laid down several conditions before he would cooperate, he said in an interview with the Associated Press.
Yesterday, Nunberg embarked on a wild, liquor-fuelled tour of mainstream media newsrooms and made headlines when he said he thought Mueller may already have incriminating evidence on Trump, although he could not say what that evidence was, and hedged on the accuracy of his own constantly changing statements.
“I think he may have done something during the election,” Nunberg said n MSMBC, “but I don’t know that for sure.”
He later told CNN that Mueller “thinks Trump is a Manchurian candidate,” a reference to a movie character who was brainwashed and elected president to work on behalf of a foreign power.
Nunberg also said he thinks Carter Page, a former Trump foreign policy adviser who is a key figure in Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, “was colluding with the Russians,” adding, “That Carter Page is a weird dude.”
Nunberg also said President Trump knew about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting that his son Donald Jr., son-in-law Jared Kushner and campaign manager Paul Manafort had with several Russians who promised negative secrets about Secretary Hillary Clinton.
Nunberg also blamed Trump for the investigation, telling MSNBC that he was “responsible” because “he was so stupid.”
Both the White House and Page denied Nunberg’s accusations outright.
Nunberg, who at times appeared to be confused, on medication or drunk as he was interviewed on CNN, NBC and elsewhere, has already missed a deadline set for yesterday to turn over documents, email and other data related to communications with a number of other Trump associates, including former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon and former campaign aide Roger Stone.
Nunberg complained that he would have to spend about 80 hours to go through his emails and find everything being demanded, which he considered unreasonable.
He told the Associated Press that he would probably comply if Mueller limits the scope of its requests.
He said he wants Mueller to drop any reference in the subpoena to Page, who Nunberg claims he never spoke to at any time.
Nunberg believes he has been targeted by Mueller as a way to get information to use against Stone, which he said he will not provide.
Nunberg told CNBC that Stone was his “mentor” and “like family” to him, so he will never give testimony against him that could incriminate Stone.
If he goes before the grand jury, Nunberg will have the right to refuse to answer questions because they might incriminate him; but if he does that, it could make him look guilty.
Nunberg has already met with Mueller’s investigators and in some interviews said he was offered immunity in return for his testimony and cooperation.
it is unclear what Nunberg would know as he was fired from the Trump campaign in August 2015 after an article appeared which highlighted his racist’s posts on social media.
However, Nunberg may also have knowledge about Trump and later activities because he remained friendly with Bannon, who was Trump’s campaign manager and later served in Trump’s White House.
Unlike Nunberg, Mueller is known for his adherence to the rules of law and knows his rights, which include citing Nunberg for criminal contempt if he does not cooperate.
At one point yesterday, Nunberg told MSNBC, “I think it would be funny if they arrested me.”
Even though he seems likely to cooperate with Muller now, if he does not comply with all the requests or lies to Mueller or the grand jury, Nunberg is likely to find out that the Special Counsel will have the last laugh.